Rich & Ken's notes on BeyondSeattle
	Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 16:33:00 -0800 (PST) 
	Subject: Puget Sound area (daytrips, hikes, art, night)

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Your Seattle Guide Service has developed the following list of proposed activities for you to consider prior to your arrival in Seattle. Of course, we realize you won't know what everything is, but most things are self-evident.

Here is a link you can follow to a Map of Washington with Travel and Lodging Information

Below is a list of activities that can be done any day of your visit.




I'd recommend, if you do go, combining it with a visit to Snoqualmie and North Bend (30 miles east of Seattle, also just off the Interstate I-90), where "Twin Peaks" was filmed. Did you ever watch that? If so, you'll understand what I mean when I say you can see Twin Peaks (Mt. Si), the Mar-T cafe ("damn good cherry pie", for real), the railroad tracks, the police station (really the Weyerhaeuser office), and the Great Northern Hotel (really the Salish Lodge) overlooking Snoqualmie Falls. Now the falls are an attraction in and of themselves, "Twin Peaks" or not. They are very impressive, especially in winter after much rain. They are also sacred Indian space. The lodge is great for dinner or drinks overlooking the falls.


From a correspondent: "One other thing I want to do, and you will probably get ill that I could be SUCH a tourist, is visit the area where Northern Exposure is filmed. I have heard it is near Seattle, and for all I know everyone who visits wants to have a look at the fictional Cicely, and you all probably feel about it the way we Bostonians feel about the Cheers pub. Like it's no big deal. Anyway, I thought I'd ask if you know where this place is, and if you have any thoughts about how ludicrous (or not) it is to contemplate trying to find it."

No, it's not ludicrous! It's a neat place, and not TOO touristy either. (The interiors, btw, are shot in a studio in Redmond, WA, also home of Microsoft). If you recall, the founders of Cicely, Alaska were 2 lesbians by the names of Cicely and Roslyn. Well, the real Cicely, AK is really Roslyn, WA. It is a neat little place (I do mean little) which I've been to 3 times, most recently on June 19, as a matter of fact. It is about 80-85 miles east of Seattle, just a few miles off the interstate. You can see KBHR radio station ("Chris in the Morning"), Dr. Fleischman's office, Ruth Ann's store, the Roslyn Cafe ("Roslyn's Cafe" on TV) with the famous mural, and go to the Brick, the oldest operating bar in Washington. There are other stores, too, most selling some sort of No. Exp. merchandise, and there's a brewery too. It's pretty much all on one street. It's not very tacky at all. But now that the series has ended, a lot of the stuff has been auctioned off, and I'm not sure what all is left. It's a pretty place nonetheless, and if you're a fan, you'll enjoy it.

Further out, you might consider going to VANTAGE, on the Columbia River Gorge. Aptly named, it features a terrific view of the Gorge. The terrain out that far resembles Arizona in the summer, and there is even a petrified forest (Ginkgo Petrified Forest) nearby. Dress lightly!


Magnificent MOUNT RAINIER:

At 14,400 ft, one of the tallest mountains in the US. Breathtaking and lots of hiking; creates its own weather, so it may be cloudy while the rest of the state is clear. It may not be visible while you standing on the mountain though you may be able to see it miles away!


Several visitor centers will explain the momentous eruption of May 18, 1980, which transformed the landscape for miles around. It is just now coming back to life. The volcano's face has been altered forever.


Our quiet, pastoral capital. Looking for a gay place there? I'm told it's Jake's on 4th Ave, 311 E 4th, (360) 956-FAGS



Olympic Peninsula : dominated by the Olympic National Park and its beautiful snow-capped mountains, it also boasts a lovely seashore and the Victorian town of Port Townsend; catch the view from Hurricane Ridge or walk along the Dungeness Spit

Olympic Coast - dayhike or campout: 2 mile easy trail through old growth forest to rugged beach with sea stacks, bald eagles, otters, seals and sea lions. Could tent camp at beach or stay indoors 2 days min. (3 is better) due to long (but scenic) drive, including ferry. Vast stretches of beautiful and rugged beach. The coast is often cloudy when the interior is clear.

Olympic Natl Park: lots to do: great view from Hurricane Ridge, hotsprings at Elwha, camping on the Hoh River, etc. etc.

Port Townsend: a lovely but small Victorian town on the northeast tip of the Peninsula. Take the ferry from Clinton. Not too far is the Dungeness Spit on the coast, and an odd collection of lawn dwarfs in Gardner (hard to explain).



Boeing Commercial Airplane Co. - Everett Assembly Plant tour (can be done any day but is on the way to Skagit Delta). Requires 7:00 or 7:30 a.m. Seattle departure. Tour is free and takes 90 minutes to complete. Everett is 30 mins to the north of Seattle on I-5.


The Tulip Festival in April is not to be missed! Great swaths of the valley are covered in bright colorful tulips. Several places in the area, such as Roosengarde and Western Shores, sell cut flowers to take home. It's about an hour's trip north of Seattle on I-5; get off at Mt. Vernon. (You can see pictures of me in the tulip fields here and here.)


San Juan Islands - Ferry through the San Juans. Possibly rent bikes or kayaks (not sure about availability (Doe Bay no longer rents them) - but I think they're both available by the hour somewhere); hike or ride or drive up Mt Constitution on Orcas Island to see the view of the Cascades and the islands. Tent camp at Doe Bay (Rustic '60's-ish) Resort with clothing- optional hot tubs and sauna (sometimes crowded) overlooking Puget Sound. Ferry fees approx. $15 - $20 each; Doe Bay Resort $8.25 each for two to camp with use of the tub and sauna. San Juans could be a long daytrip or overnight.


It's 2.5 hrs by car from Seattle (border crossing is very busy, though!) and is very international/cosmopolitan.

Downtown reminds me of New York, (bustling!) but nicer. Lots of good food and stuff to do. It is also very beautiful inasmuch as the mountains rise right up into the sky from the bay, while in Seattle, "our" mountains are 1/2 to 1 hour away (beautiful to see nonetheless). Also Vancouver has long beaches and a huge park (Stanley Park)---1000 acres of rainforest on the edge of downtown--it's quite amazing. Also recommend English Bay Beach, and Kitsilano Beach, which are long and lovely to stroll along. The gay beach (clothing optional) is Wreck Beach, near UBC.

There's a great science museum (Science World BC) and I'm told great things about the Museum of Anthropology at UBC; across the Lion's Gate Bridge from Stanley Park, there's a terrific view from Grouse Mountain. Stop by the Capilano Suspension Bridge on your way there. Best shopping is on Robson St; food, art, music and theatre an be found on Granville Island near downtown. Also there's a lovely old historic district (1880s) called Gastown. Chinatown is nearby and very orderly with plenty of good restaurants; also there is the Dr. Sun Yat-sen Garden for peaceful contemplation. Consider a bus tour, which takes you around and allows you to get off an on all day.

Davie St is the gay area and there are numbeorus good restaurants and a variety of bars in this vicinity and others scattered around downtown.

Ferries to Victoria (the BC capital, a small very British city, with lovely quaint B&B's and the majestic Empress Hotel and nearby world-famous Butchart Gardens) can be had on the hour from Tsawassen, 1/2 hr to the south of Vancouver, near the US border.

	Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:18:38 -0700 (PDT)
	Subject: Vancouver, BC places to stay and things to do

I spent a night in Vancouver in October '94 (my 4th time there); stayed at the Dufferin downtown (900 Seymour; very central, not far from the gay district). A room for two was $65 (Canadian) which I think is reasonable. The room was quite satisfactory; nothing extravagant. They had parking too and a restaurant and two bars in the hotel. Walking distance to Robson St (shopping) and Davie St (gay bars, etc). The # is 604 683 4251.

Other possibilities: [area code 604]

Burrard Motor Inn 	681 2331
Sylvia (very popular) 	681 9321 	-English Beach/downtown
Buchan 			1 800 668 6654 	-1906 Harrow
Colibri B&B 		689 5100 	-downtown
Albion Guesthouse 	873 2287 	-592 W 19th
Columbia Cottage 	874 5327 	-205 W 14th
Heritage Hse		685 7777 	-455 Abbott/downtown
Nelson House 		684 9793 	-977 Broughton

Also try Town & Country Central Booking 731 5942


At the southern tip of Vancouver Island this small, picturesque English-flavored city is accessible by ferry from Seattle, Port Angeles (Olympic Pen.), Anacortes (north of Seattle), and Tsawassen, BC (near US border). It is the government seat of British Colubia and features a lovely waterfront, Parliament, the Empress Hotel (serving high tea), a wax museum, a naval museum, Chinatown, etc. One gay bar (Rumours). Nearby is Butchart Gardens, an acclaimed, commercial, large English-style display garden.


Day hikes - unlimited possibilites in Cascade (to the east) or Olympic Mountains (to the west).
Specific suggestions include (but others could be made): 
	* Fay Peak and Knapsack Pass loop, Mt.  Rainier Ntl. Park (4-1/2
	mile total with spectacular views, a little scramble, and a ridge walk
	along the way: this is one of my favorite day hikes).
	* Pinnacle Peak, Mt Rainier Ntl. Park (also spectacular views and
	about 4 miles total length, but with a longer, more difficult 
	scramble tothe summit).
	* Silver Peak (very good views; 5 or 7 mile options - closer to
	home = shorter drive).
	* Mt. Persis, North Cascades (7 miles round trip. Totally
	spectacular 360 degree view at the top. 2-1/2 miles each way is very 
	steep trail. A real workout.) 
	* Eagle Lake (easy 4 mile trail through old-growth forest to a
	fairly warm mountain lake where one can skinny dip.  Very nice 


I definitely recommend going to the Triangle Campground; it is a GAY campground. And it is very campy! It is isolated in the deep woods, very lush, and very popular in the summer. Gays only. It has recently relocated to Bender Creek (21 mi. outside Granite Falls, WA on the Mtn. Loop Hwy; 90 (?) mins. NE of Seattle) after 20 years at Index, WA. You you can pitch a tent for a few days if you like, for $10/person/day. (No services provided except outhouses).

There are also a few gay beaches in Seattle (one, Denny Blaine, near Yesler on Lake Washington, is mostly for lesbians; Madison Park, at the end of Madison on Lk. Wash, is mostly gay men but draws a mixed crowd). Two others--Carkeek (100th at the Sound, walk north along the train tracks) and Richmond (200th at the Sound; ditto on the tracks)--are secluded gay nude beaches. BEWARE of trains on the tracks and police!

Compiled by Richard Isaac and Ken

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